Whee!

[treehat]

The Dems control the House, might control the Senate (with some luck), Rick Santorum got kicked out, and Rumsfeld (Secretary of Offense) is resigning.

I am downright giddy. I haven't been this happy in, well, I can't honestly remember.

I can't stop smiling and I'm fighting against the increasing urge to dance around the house in jubilant liberal victory.

It is a good day.

Comments

[eikenboom.livejournal.com]

I never said you were a Republican, and I sure as hell don't know what gave you that idea.

Your point was that the Democratic ads were too negative. My point was that nearly all ads are negative, regardless of party. I simply outlined why ads take that path. I didn't even touch the "vote for me 'cause I'm not Republican" line. Because I honestly didn't see any of that here. How did this "prove your point"? Not to mention that the majority of my argument was not even contained in the first paragraph. I mentioned that the ads here by Democratic candidates did put forward ideas and were not limited to attacks. The only attack ads I saw by the Democrats were based on hard facts about the opponent - they did not strive for any emotion nor did they dig into the mud barrel. They simply showed that the opponent had outsourced jobs from a state with the second-worst economy in the nation.

Don't put words in my mouth.

[foxchild.livejournal.com]

yo, ghostway, wasn't meant for you. And yes, I read your response, I haven't had a chance to formulate an educated response. My experience relates to only the ads around the Maryland, Virginia, DC area.

I did ask for time to retrieve the proof, as well as references, for my point. I'm still at work, stuck doing overtime, haven't had a chance too.

That comment was directed at DCS, because I felt he jumped to that conclusion about me, since in his opening argument, he didnt touch on the issue I had first remarked on, the negative ads.

As I said, I'd like to continue our discussion, but I really would rather not have a flame war, and if this is going to amount to that, then I withdraw my first statement. You know me, ghostway, I'm a levelheaded, openminded individual ... with a short attention span =P. I'll dig into some news articles from around the area I live in, so I can at least put some credence to my argument.... well, once I can actually get home =(.

[foxchild.livejournal.com]

oops, I see what happened there, I clicked the wrong 'reply' button, that is entirely my mistake! =X sorry

[foxchild.livejournal.com]

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And see, here I have disproven myself. What I saw on television was apparently only a glimpse of what was actually being shown. From what I seem to be able to find online, it seems it's split about 50/50 between positive and negative campaigning. So on that note, I step down.

Now, would you like to continue the other issues brought up in the comments here, in a calm manor, whereby each point is backed up with a cited source? I'm game if you are, and if not, I can respect that too. I just dont want a flamewar on politics, not my thing. never has been. But that doesnt mean I dont like a good discussion to which my mind, or the other, might be swayed.

[eikenboom.livejournal.com]

I'm not interested in debating further as I'm terrible at it, I get ticked off way too easily with politics (as you probably saw), and I frankly don't have time for it. However, I am genuinely interested in the clause from the Gulf War treaty you mentioned.

[foxchild.livejournal.com]

I will look for that, may have to stop off at the national archives (well, i guess thats ONE handy thing about being near DC....)

And as for the getting ticked off to easily: A lot of people do, many even to the point of reacting to politics dogmatically, both democrats and republicans. The only things I ever ask is that 1)If we ever (we as in anyone) have a debate, and you state an opinion, back it up. If you state fact, cite your source. Thats something you should learn to do in English class, during highschool... and 2) If you actually want to pursuade me, don't try to do it by insulting me. That happens to often, and is why I rarely discuss politics. Actually, though it doesn't apply to anything here, there's also a third thing I ask: Pay attention to whats ACTUALLY being said, not what you want to percieve being said. I once caught someone up on that, and he got so pissed off (never realizing what I was trying to point out had nothing to do with what he brought up and was trying to argue) that I haven't heard from that guy since. Ah, well....

The one thing I can say is my opinion here that needs no clarification; This is going to be interesting to see what the Democrates now do with the power they've earned here.